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The BBC Is To Promote Neo-Fascism.

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Lancaster Unity has more:

“THE BBC has provoked controversy by giving the British National party a platform for the first time on Question Time, its top current affairs programme.

Nick Griffin, the BNP leader who was elected to the European parliament in June, is expected to be on the show in October. The corporation has decided that the far-right party deserves more airtime because it has demonstrated “electoral support at a national level”.

The move has caused consternation among politicians, with some Labour MPs and at least one cabinet minister pledging to boycott Question Time. They fear the BNP will use the publicity to promote a racist agenda.

The change in policy has also triggered dissent within the BBC. One senior correspondent, who did not want to be named, said: “It’s barmy … Public servants can be sacked for membership of the BNP and yet the BBC wants to give them airtime with the main political parties.”

My view ? No platform.

Update 1: Across the pond, neo-Nazi emails are leaked, the National Socialist Movement’s vile mutterings are exposed.

Update 2: Talking of neo-fascists, the EDL are scrutinized by Richard Bartholomew.

Written by modernityblog

06/09/2009 at 01:26

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  1. Okay. Do you also think there should be No Platform for nominally left-wing types who promote anti-Semitism under the guise of anti-Zionism or who are prepared to traduce women’s rights or gay rights under the pretext of combatting Islamophobia?

    Just asking, because in the 1980s I spent quite a lot of time arguing against a No Platform policy with the likes of the SWP who even then were trying to present Israel as a racist/Apartheid state. Much as I despise the SWP and the BNP I can’t justify a no platform policy against either of them.

    As for sacking public servants for being members of legal political parties, the current situation is a disgrace. Either a political party is legal or it is not. If you want to ban civil servants from being a member of any political party then fine, but banning them from being members of a legally registered political party is invidious on any understanding of democracy.

    There are arguments for banning the BNP. I don’t happen to agree with those arguments but it would be better to do that than to have the current position where public institutions can effectively decide for themselves which registered political parties are or are not beyond the pale.

    Paul Dennett

    06/09/2009 at 08:34

  2. Oh and the title of the post is a bit silly. Having Nick Griffin on Question Time is no more promoting neo-fascism than having David Cameron on is promoting the Conservative Party.

    Paul Dennett

    06/09/2009 at 11:10

  3. Paul,

    If you are reduced to arguing that the title of the post is silly, then might I suggest that you continue arguing with SWPers, as I have little time or inclination to explain the basics 🙂


    06/09/2009 at 12:37

  4. can I question the assertion in the quote that BBC employees can be sacked for membership of he bnp. This is not true.
    Also, the BNP have two elected MEPs, can a publicly funded broadcaster like the BBC deny these public representatives airtime?
    I am seriously concerned about the way in which this is being discussed, this has been spelled out by a contributer on Urban75 who said (without irony)
    “It’s all well and good educated and aware people on here talking, but the masses are more easily swayed and arrogance won’t stop the BNP being seen as legitimised by this nor will it dissuade those who watch or tune in possbly buying into the lies Griffin and co spin on the show.”


    06/09/2009 at 13:20

  5. BBC and BNP membership, I believe it relates to a code of conduct, which affects employees being members of any political parties, etc

    Providing the BNP with *any* air time will legitimize them, we shouldn’t be drawn into this wish-washy liberal mindset that a good argument will beat the BNP, they shouldn’t be given free publicity.

    There are exceptions in politics and the BNP is one of them.


    06/09/2009 at 14:26

  6. Modernity,

    Your comment is beneath you. BBC journalists are well capable of exposing Griffin for what he is. Andrew Marr did a masterly job a few weeks ago simply by giving the bastard a few inches of rope and inviting him to hang himself, which he duly did.

    I’m not going to argue about the title of your post either. The salient points were in my previous comment, which you have ignored. I got tired of the arguments around No Platform 20 years ago – since when my interlocutors turned out to be fascists themselves.

    If you are going to treat the BNP as an exception in politics then they should be banned by law from being a registered political party. You can’t have the BBC deciding that some parties are okay and some not, or the NHS banning another set, or the Police banning another set. Public bodies should not be allowed to discriminate between legal political parties, unless you think McCarthyism or the Berufsverbot are the way to go…

    Paul Dennett

    07/09/2009 at 02:33

  7. And another thing. During the Euro Election campaign various people (I think yourself included) were saying that the BNP should be exposed for what they are, whereas I was saying that as far as possible they should be ignored, on the grounds that giving them free publicity during an election campaign was a bad plan.

    Ironic, huh?

    As it turned out, you were right and I was wrong. It didn’t stop the BNP winning seats but it did stop the BNP vote going up substantially.

    So what has changed now? What makes you think that now that the BNP has the platform of the European Parliament to strut across, keeping them off Question Time will somehow make the public forget about them? You don’t need me to tell you that the BNP are constantly beavering away at a local level these days. Keeping the BNP at bay locally is the ground war. Exposing their ideas for what they are to the widest possible audience in the media is the air war. And you can’t win the ground war without control of the air.

    Paul Dennett

    07/09/2009 at 02:55

  8. “If you are going to treat the BNP as an exception in politics then they should be banned by law”

    That’s not my argument, please erect straw men elsewhere.

    PS: Neo-fascists and their would-be supporters are often not swayed by argument and reason, which is the point, they are frequently bigots, xenophobic and a bit thick, thus the argument that you can eviscerate them with a few words doesn’t work.


    07/09/2009 at 13:42

  9. Who wrote this?

    “There are exceptions in politics and the BNP is one of them.”

    It was you, not me.

    There are plenty of (present or past) BNP voters around where I live, unfortunately. They come broadly in three categories, it seems to me:

    (a) those too angry to care what the BNP are like
    (b) those too stupid to understand what the BNP are about
    (c) actual Nazis

    There’s not much you can do about (b) and (c) but fortunately (a) seems to be a clear majority. They are going to be susceptible to reasoned debate and also are most likely to be able to identify a moron when they see one on television.

    I would have hoped you would give ordinary people more credit but there you go that’s socialism for you.

    Paul Dennett

    07/09/2009 at 22:30

  10. Paul Dennett,

    I am not interested in political stupidity in the face of the growth of the BNP.

    Just in case, you didn’t get it I am *not* interested in your excuses, feeble arguments, detractions, inability to follow my arguments.

    Go away. I won’t say it twice.


    07/09/2009 at 22:39

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